[soundclash] "Time 2 Shine" Soundclash Tournament -- 29.01-2

ZaPo a écrit :

Smoka a écrit :
@Zapo: U just pissed of about Sultan cuz him told u on Stage to shut the Fuck up..so u not even giving a neutral feedback u just have a hurt ego,thats it.....

If you really think i'm angry cause Sultan say that i'm Boomboclaat....yuh mad !!!!! I'm pissed of cause a big event like dat turn into a mascarade. I respect you as a soundclash promoter so this is why i'm not understand how you can let a soundclash turn like dat ? .Sultan never asked the crownd after the Ivory set, why ?

Just a last question without polemic, will the rules be the same in all countries ?

He did tell the People,100% sure about this and he did that even more than one time. Zebulon (Foundation) also said to the People "Ivory break the rules so you People have to vote them out of it"..what more can we do?? seriously..


Yes, the Rules will be the Same in every Country on every Clash and without the intention of starting any polemic, do you really believe that this "idea" of breaking rules was nt something we did expect`?? C`mon we knew it would happen sooner or later - of course im surprised it happen in the first one,lol- but the matter of fact is, a nice idea but not the big revolution like some ppl a hyping it up. Especialy cuz now,every Sound that will try this move,will surely get call out as a "Copycat"

so those sissis that say " Smoka did ruin and fuck up this Competition", mek sure u able to talk in this way when we see us again, u shouldnt underestimate nice & Gentle People!!

Smoka please read my previous message again. The purpose of my example was to show that despite they were leading and entertaining the ppl they were disqulified... Which mean that if you make some rules that all other sounds follow, if a sound break it you have yo eliminate it even if him plaid better than the other... Nothinh to do with the way fb or gs plaid last night. For me it's just a question of respect for the soundmen (and not only the french sounds) who accepted and prepared the clash considering the rules... Ohterwise don't make rule..

daddy-natiss a écrit :Respect to foundation, real big sound, deserved the vicotry... Respect same way to all the sound who came on stage..

But just one question... if you make some rules, and a sound clearly break it, how come the promoter and host let him go to the next round ?
5 years ago, I saw a clash in london when bass odyssey with squingy was leading from far but was eliminated straight because squingy cuss a badword in the no profanity round.. Even if dem was leading and the massive wanted dem fi continue.

I prefer soundclash with less rules, but if the sounds agree to go in a clash with rules, them must respect them... And the promoter haffi take care that all the sounds respect them, otherwise, it's a clear disrespect for the other sounds who prepared the clash with the constraint of the rules...

Because u are the only coming with respect without making urself looking like a fool i will answer u sir!


1st of all personally i dont like the rules in a soundclash although i myself organized some clashes with also rules(and even once a jury....lol)....that was in the begin days of War ina East...almost 10 years ago!

I asked the promoter specificly what we going to do if a sound dont follow the rulez,he said clearly that we have rulez and that i had to explain them to the people and let the people decide if a sound break the rulez to eliminate that sound,so its NOT like the UKCUP clash were the host loud & clear said that if a sound curse a badword in that round it would be eliminated right away(not even play 1 sec more)....so that argument done!!!!

Before we draw the numbers yesterday i explained it again to the people and said that THEY are the judge....not me neither the promoter!!So when the people decided to put the rulez beside them its up to them!!

Now u came asking urself these questions on a proper mature way which i respect cause u dont have to agree and u just asking urself these questions!BIG UP

What i dont like is that Jacob and Mr Photograph Man of that other thinpan sound come accusing me for all kind of things...........Jacob u showed ur real face because just yesterday everything was criss and u even talked about ur so called french "collegues" in the business.....u a hypocrite and u nothing better then the guys u was talking about!

I dont going to bother that other little thinpan!!

U all better work on some unity instead of talking behind eachother back!

Big up Sergio of Heartical(Real Boss!!!),Ras Titay of 97 Connection(Sarcelles alwayz nice when we dehyah Rasta) and Smokey of Tribulation Sound(even if we sometimes agree to disagree)


ps


War ina East 2011 26th of March
King Addies vs LP International vs One Love Hi Powa
Atak,Enschede,The Netherlands

So apart from the rule ting, wah happen to de french sound this time? Whats the excuse? Can't u guys bring a trophee from Germany at least once? And dont come cuss me cause this nuh go change de fact. De biggest sound dem wid de biggest dub box are boring TODAY, so what do u expect from the lil ones? By de time some ah unnu realise that, unnu will ded fe hungry...

I will celebrate my last sound clash at the war in de east, watching boring addies getting kill by idiot one love, i suggest everyone do de same... peace out

Wary a écrit :So apart from the rule ting, wah happen to de french sound this time? Whats the excuse? Can't u guys bring a trophee from Germany at least once? And dont come cuss me cause this nuh go change de fact. De biggest sound dem wid de biggest dub box are boring TODAY, so what do u expect from the lil ones? By de time some ah unnu realise that, unnu will ded fe hungry...

I will celebrate my last sound clash at the war in de east, watching boring addies getting kill by idiot one love, i suggest everyone do de same... peace out

Normally mi juss drop chune an run...

But jah kno a di bess mi laff in a long time...

:jussa read:

bon, et sinon, qqun se lance dans un feed back ?

wouw ah yes que c il passé dans ce big clash??? (pb de micro, selecta qui low pas au bon moment???)

I have no complain about Sultan. That s big enough to be said . I have to confess that I'm a bit vex about the "break rulez" no consequences, because i thaught the sound who break the rules was supposed to be disqualified. My mistake maybe i shuld have ask for that long ago. I thaught smocka was about to disqualify them so i asked on stage. smocka u told me sultan was about to talk to the people about the rule .... then it was actually foundation who talked to the people about that, and zebulon did not get any forward for that speach. the complain about rulez did not pay at all that's a fact. (zebulon did try twice to buss this argument with no success).

Bringing the sensation of the night on stage, JUNIOR ROY, did not pay at all for the votes neither, that s a fact. Even if everybody loved the vibes to the max as anytime he performs.

so that means the rulez sucks , YES.

When i started my 1st round, I asked for all people who want the best sound and the best set a dub to win. I got 4 persons putting them hands up That s approximately the same amount of votes i got after 2nd round .... so fair enough. FuryBass and Guiding Star and anysound who wanted to get a chance in this clash was supposed to bring a bus, as smocka said, that is the main thing. I dont like that Established fact but so the thing stay. Mi nah go stick to the ting so

Honnestly, i can't believe to see jacob friend up with all those european soundmen that are taking him non stop fe a fool. Mi cyaan lie bout that
I also can't believe to see Jacob trying to get him buzz pon Junior Roy, proposing dubplate from him on facebook even before i get home ... as I personnally wrote him lyrics, produced his First single, produced & build his first shows, and pay to bring him on stage last saturday night. Stop hype up pon mi tingz Jacob. U just turn us ridiculous, nutten more. The yuth needs a serious management and no vampire behaviour around. Please. fe di yuth jacob.

Bless al musical lovers.

All my comments on that clash are included in my rounds. in my opinion, musically speaking, I simply killed&destroyed mattia on 2nd round, but U-club decided exactly the opposite of my feeling Smoka, a nice courtesy for our sounds that did work for the clash and are just deceived today, would be to release the audio and video quite soon. I hope u don't plan to keep everything locked until the final as i read ? It wuld be a loose for promotion in my opinion .... guiness clash from Ja was releasing summary of each clash quick and it helped for promotion of semi and finals..

Looking forward to some fair clashes, but true we had to bring some French massivs to make the clash better.

FOUNDATION IS A REAL BIG SOUND AND THEY DISERVE THEIR VICTORY!!!!! My respect to them.

FuryBass will clash in ROMA on 4th of MARCH, hope to get a better feedback there. Italian gurlz a di ruffest, mi truss dem badly

Wary a écrit :Can't u guys bring a trophee from Germany at least once? And dont come cuss me cause this nuh go change de fact. De biggest sound dem wid de biggest dub box are boring TODAY, so what do u expect from the lil ones? By de time some ah unnu realise that, unnu will ded fe hungry...

well,nothin wrong fi me,i bring trophy from germany already & it was the same promotor smoka who setted this clash with dee Buzz in november 2009!
that's why i don't criticize smoka work as promotor,even sultan,me na have nothin against you!
it's just what i said on stage after the elimination & what i said back during the clash!from rules set,as host or promotor of the event,you had responsabilities,like ivory too,but u never want to assume dem & you put the crowd as the real responsible,that's it!cause they were the main & only judge of the clash!
the argument is closed now!

truely,i know that the little mistakes we made in the 2nd round might fuck we up in this clash!
but by the same time,i know that i was connected with the crowd very good in the 1st round!
i know that our biggest fault is to not get a fuckin bus moving on to wuppertal & our chances would be more equals with the rest of sounds!
cause a so the clash thing set nowadays,the crowd will give you some nice forwards during your rounds,but when time to vote,they will always vote for their friend!especially in this type of clash with 5-6 sounds & some 10 mn rounds!
respect to each & everyone!

greg a écrit :Honnestly, i can't believe to see jacob friend up with all those european soundmen that are taking him non stop fe a fool. Mi cyaan lie bout that
I also can't believe to see Jacob trying to get him buzz pon Junior Roy, proposing dubplate from him on facebook even before i get home ... as I personnally wrote him lyrics, produced his First single, produced & build his first shows, and pay to bring him on stage last saturday night. Stop hype up pon mi tingz Jacob. U just turn us ridiculous, nutten more. The yuth needs a serious management and no vampire behaviour around. Please. fe di yuth jacob.

hey greg,move your bloodclaat idiot talk & come talk to me straight,idiot badminded fussy asshole!!!
you want i tell everybody the truth about junior Roy or Bigga Ranx??
my yute,i know di yute since he's 1 year old,i introduce you to maxwell,i intoduce you to Bigga Ranx,& right now,u a gwaan like di yute is your own property????
artist are free & legal to work with anybody!
u just killed yourself on this topic & revealed your real badmind & backbitter attitude!!!
don't call me vampire anymore or i will make you know a different side of me!
i just want to help junior Roy in his carreer cause di yute livin in paris where i have a studio & have time to work with him,& it's a project setted before you even write a lyric & released a tune with him,& i believe in his potent long time before you plan to carry him for this clash,a thing that i knew the second right after you decided to do it!!!!!!

take a break jacob.

and respect other people work. mi nah mix up wid none of ur ting. last: pack up ur dirty words.

Ouai mais non alors là si en plus au lieu de se serrer les coudes on se tire dans le beuj' c'est pas comme ça qu'on va avancer....

yes,c pour ca que je dis ca!!!
si je fais ca pour roy,c'est dans aucune mauvaise intention & tentative de vampirisation!!
au contraire!!!
je n'ai pas compris le comment de greg,car je ne vois pas ou j'ai fait 1 coup bas en promotant junior Roy sur fb!!!
au contraire,je pense que ca le valorise en tant qu'artiste & valorise fury bass puisque c'est vous qui l'avez rammené a wuppertal pour sa 1ere apparition internationale,& c'est ce que les gens retiendront!
donc,comme on s'est dit,on s'apl ce soir avec greg & le debat est clos!!!!

big up!!

@Sultant. Ok. I get your point. I don't totally agree cause i think some rules are not written just like the no playback tune... This you can ask the crowd... If a rule is clearly stated on the flyer... It's a different ting...
That is my opinion. Mi nah go into long an useless speache behind my keyboard. Just let the ppl make their own opinion. Respect
Hope that we'll get the chance to meet and discuss about soundclash business together.

@warry: we don't try to find any excuse. All soundmen involved in the clash agreed that the victory was given with fairness to the best sound that night. We are experienced soundmen and know that soundclash is like this. Sometime you win, sometime your opponent is better and you loose. Now I hope that the audio will be released soon and ppl will judge the sounds prestation by themselve.

Respect