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Jamaica, a gay hell

Text: Ratiba Hamzaoui

Jamaica, a gay hell
A paradise island and the cradle of reggae, Jamaica has something in common with Iran and Saudi Arabia. These three countries are considered the most homophobic in the world. In France, this scourge echoes in the cancellation of certain concerts. A fatality on the ground, where an anti-gay consensus seems deeply rooted, to the detriment of the hundreds of homosexuals who live in hell.
In Jamaica, being a man and wearing a pink mini-dress is tantamount to a death wish. Macy, 1.85 metres tall, with fluorescent false nails and an extravagant wig, stands in this shop in downtown Kingston. Her friend has just been found stabbed behind a building. "I'm tired of being afraid!" she says. So she decided to come here and choose some unisex shoes. Within minutes, a crowd is waiting for her, some of them armed with knives.
Macy's audacity goes down badly in this country, considered the most homophobic in the West. Standing back, the police watch and wait for the outcome of this episode, which looks set to turn macabre. To save her skin, she trashes the shop so as to be escorted to the police station and escape the crowd.

Batty boy, Chi Chi man, Fish, Cat or Boogie man... The homosexual community is the most marginalised and persecuted in Jamaica. It is said to number about 300 homosexuals across the country, and of the sixty listed in the capital, half are said to be homeless. Hearing them ask whether they could walk freely down the street in France, it is difficult to answer these youngsters, some barely 13 years old and with bodies already mutilated.

To escape attacks, the only solution is to hole up at home. "I only go out in case of extreme necessity," says Dwayne, 22, who needed seven stitches after an attack in a supermarket. "Of course sometimes I get bored, I listen to music, I watch television, like a housewife!"

Jamaica, a gay hellFour anti-gay laws
By day or by night, whether the neighbourhood is rich or poor, homophobia rages on the island. Jamaica was in fact ranked in 2010 among the five most homophobic countries in the world by Amnesty International, alongside Iran and Saudi Arabia.

While no law specifically targets the homosexual community, sexual practices between men are criminalised. "Whosoever is convicted of the abominable crime of buggery shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of up to ten years," stipulates section 76 of the Offences Against the Person Act. In all, four laws punish sexual relations between men, even consensual ones.
Present in law, in social attitudes and on the airwaves, the cause is hard to pin down, according to the director of J-Flag, the country's main gay rights organisation. For many, religion plays the main role, Jamaica having the highest number of places of worship per square metre. Add to that politics, education and music.

Jamaica, a gay hellDancehall, reflection or influence?
"J-Flag supports freedom of expression but artists must take responsibility and own their influence on listeners," explains the organisation's director, pointing to songs that call for the murder of homosexuals. He adds some nuance: "Jamaica is not homophobic because of dancehall artists. It is because the island is homophobic that the lyrics are too." According to a dancehall artist and a producer, supporting the gay cause would spell the artist's death. "Suicide for your career; the compromise would be to keep your mouth shut!"

The cancelled international shows do not stop Kartel, Bounty Killer or Sizzla from having followers among homosexuals. "What else do you want me to dance to? The Charleston?" jokes Gabriella. "I'm 23, and like every Jamaican my age, I listen to dancehall. If I boycotted homophobes, I couldn't do anything at all here," insists this young transvestite. Yet there is no question of going to hear them on the beach. "No, beach parties are off-limits for us, unless you want to be found floating the next day."

To take them out of their daily routine, J-Flag organises, in collaboration with the Jamaica AIDS Support (JAS) clinic, themed nights every Tuesday evening. Over tea and a basket of free condoms, they talk. That night, hearts are not in the party, as the abandoned box of dominoes shows. Between sips of tea, everything revolves around the absent. Jamie, burned alive, Ashann, found stabbed, or Dwayne, beaten to death in broad daylight.
It is Yvonne Artis, head of the JAS clinic, who is called to identify the bodies. The address of these homeless youngsters is the clinic where they shower and eat three times a week. "The situation has got worse," she asserts. "Anyway, even if they are very afraid, they are condemned to risk their lives and come, because we provide the only help in the country."

For those prepared to live their homosexuality openly, the future is mapped out: "death or exile for the luckiest," she says, like a guillotine blade falling.

Report written by Ratiba Hamzaoui

Comments (44)

  1. Lâche pas l'affaire Ratiba, ton article est très bien. J'aimerai bien entendre le discours de tous ces haters le jour ou des mecs commenceront à se faire lyncher par ce qu'il se font fait sucer la bite par leur meuf, pratique gravement contre nature, lol !!!

    ONE LOVE !!!!

    danico · · rating: 5 out of 5

  2. Wow...Just wow. Who are the "us" you speak about? Don't you think it's more than little presumptuous of you to come here and assume to speak for everyone? I corrected the mistakes and falsehoods in the article; explaining the buggery act and other laws concerning homosexuals, the fact that there are only 300 gays in Jamaica, the actual situation on the ground here in Jamaica etc., etc., because like most Jamaicans I'm fed up with all the agenda driven 'experts' who know more about us than we know about ourselves. I feel so strongly about this that I used my real name and didn't hide behind a pseudonym.

    If the misinformation in the article suites you then fine, and if you don't like the information I posted here you are more than welcome to come to Jamaica and take it up with the police high command and the courts because that is where it came from. I have been to Brazil many times but I don't consider myself an expert on the sociopolitical situation, culture, people or history of the country, what are the credentials that make you an expert on this or any situation in Jamaica pray tell?

    Sam Clayton ·

  3. Dear Same Clayton!!! I live in Brazil a democratic country with a high level of murders in homosexual communities...You are the most funny people i have ever read!!! How can you right such things:

    "more than 90% of violent crimes involving male homosexuals are if fact perpetrated by other homosexual males usually in a jealous dispute."

    I think it is terrible, poor and stupid, and more this is an abject cliche!! Please leave us (and this jornalist!) read our reaggae France in peace!!!" I usually never react to article but I can't read such bullshit!!! Go away mister clayton please....How can this website can leave this comments ??????

    ANA · · rating: 4 out of 5

  4. Is this really the best you can do? Frankly I'm very disappointed, I expected better or was I just too optimistic. I thought Reggae France was at least a professional outfit with professional staff who would display a certain level of decorum.

    This opinionated old man made several salient points which you have not responded to, instead your unwarranted, personal attack is very unprofessional and uncouth at best.......childish even, especially on a public forum.

    There is clearly no accounting for good manners and class....but we are who we are because of what we know.

    Sam Clayton ·

  5. Mr Clayton, going to the bank and being in the same line than a transexual does not give you the right to spread your ignorance and prejudice on the topic.

    You find my advise about what you should do with the time you have left in Jamaica childish, irrelevant and presumptuous? Should I remind you you first advise me to stay more than a week in Jamaica?

    And no, I did not have to spend a second to investigate on you. An old man who has an opinion on everything and everybody, is unfortunately way too loud to be avoided.

    Ratiba Hamzaoui ·

  6. Your article is misleading, biased, rife with falsehoods and arrogant. You gave the impression that homosexuals are being systematically hunted down, assaulted and/or murdered and this is misleading and false! Your insistence that the police and and various other official organizations, including the hospital staff in Kingston hospitals are to be mistrusted and that is why these crimes are not/never reported and and have no official record of ever happening is again misleading and false. The fact that you 'know' what happened although there are no official reports or evidence to support your claims in THREE different murders is arrogance at its highest level.

    Until you offer evidence to the contrary, the three 'homophobic murders' (as you call them), is only speculation and opinion on your part and should be stated as such, nothing more. Journalism is about reporting the news/facts not making them. One minute there is no evidence and the next minute you 'know' for a fact what happened...unless you were present at the time of these murders I don't see how this can be.

    I do not understand your insistence on pushing innuendo and falsehoods even after the facts(s) have been brought to your attention, your continued misrepresentation of the Buggery Act is a prime example of this. This information is easily available on the internet for anyone interested in the truth by the way.

    Everybody in Kingston knows where homosexual prostitutes hang out and conduct 'business' yet neither the police or the roving band of murderers you wrote about don't go to these locations to arrest or murder them and/or their clients. I will repeat this for clarity: IT IS A CRIME TO ASSAULT ANYONE FOR ANY REASON IN JAMAICA. Therefore, if you assault someone for being gay you will be arrested and charged with a crime, and unlike the writer I can produce police records which show that this has happened in the past...

    You mentioned that there are four (4) laws that "directly target male homosexuals" can you now enlighten us as to what those laws are and explain exactly how they "target male homosexuals". Why don't any of your points come with detailed explanations? Your article and responses read like a collection of anecdotes.

    I have spent a lifetime studying the history and culture of this country, all the way up to the university level, I have a profound understanding of the language, laws and customs. That is a lot more knowledge and information than anyone who came to Kingston two years ago can ever claim to have acquired...but you are the expert...

    You apparently spent some time investigating who I am therefore I find your advise about what I should do with the time I have left in Jamaica childish, irrelevant and presumptuous.

    Sm Clayton ·

  7. Jamaica is a homophic country, that is a fact. Amnesty International and many other non governmental organizations consider Jamaica as one of the most homophobic countries in the world, that is a fact. The three murders I mentionned are homophobic murders, these are three facts.

    This article, contrary to your non-sense comments, is a non-biased article. I wrote this article because homophobia is a plague in Jamaica, and to try to explain that music is more a reflect of what is already existing than an influence.

    There are four laws that directly target (male) homosexuals, the "buggery laws" that Mrs Simpson Miller wants to repeal. When a homosexual wants to press charges because he was a victim of an agression, he is taking more risks to go to the police.

    With almost 400 Jamaicans killed by the police in 2010 (and this does not include the unrest), the JCF cannot be considered as a reliable source. I had the evidence thanks to the NGOs in Jamaica, the clinic that takes care of the and the homosexuals in Jamaica, and that is why this article has been published.

    If "sensational' means "journalism that does not serve your interest and does not feed your prejudice", so yes, it can be considered as sensational.

    You have now a few days left in Jamaica, Mr Clayton, don't waste your time and start some research. Every educated people "know that".

    Ratiba Hamzaoui ·

  8. No, we should not keep quiet about homophobia I never suggested any such thing but journalists must report about the problem in a non biased manner, they should only report 'facts' and not try to editorialize and make claims that are not proven and they should never give the impression that their opinion is fact.

    It is also false to claim that homosexuality is punishable by law in Jamaica because this is not true!!! The Buggery Act (which we inherited from England) is specifically concerned with anal penetration and bestiality. IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BE OR CLAIM TO BE A HOMOSEXUAL IN JAMAICA.... Homosexuals cannot, and are not arrested for being homosexual! Research.

    Almost none of your claims have been proved by you or even the police, you stand behind unverified and unproven claims while claiming professionalism as a journalist. The police and hospital workers are not trusted so murders and aggravated assaults go unreported?!? Nobody need to press charges when murder or aggravated assault is committed the investigation by the police is automatic in these situations. If you do not have, and cannot provide material evidence of a situation you should not report it as fact, every professional journalist knows that.

    If this is not sensational 'journalism' I don't know what is.

    Sam Clayton ·

  9. Moi ça me fait doucement rigoler ce reportage sur un site comme reggaefrance.com. Le site qui passe des clips slackness ou tu retrouves des paroles sexistes et gangsta dans tous les couplets et qui se fait appeler reggaefrance. Le problème du reggae et des sounds en France, c'est qu'il passe des tunes Jamaiquaines que personnent comprend les paroles et qu'elles parlent le plus souvent de la vie hardcore des jamaicains et que derrière ils arrivent à te passer une tune conscious passe que le son est bon ou que ça vient de jamaique. Beh en fait c'est le même problème avec ce site, c'est le genre de bordel qui te décrédibilise un mouvement et un message.
    Je n'ai pas peur de dire que ce site est de la merde, il contribue à banaliser le femme objet et le bling bling, ou sont les valeurs du reggae là dedans!, et pour rappel la jamaique bat les records aussi d'agression sexuel et de viols, faut faire le ménage devant sa porte avant de balancer des reportages comme ça !

    miro · · rating: 2 out of 5

  10. I, the author, am not pretending to judge the culture and the people of Jamaica, but I am observing, investigating, and interviewing. The situation is complex indeed, and the NGOs themselves cannot explain the cause: religion, music, politic, etc.

    Should we make homophobia be quiet because it is a worldwide issue? There are homophobes in France, but homosexuality is criminally punishable in Jamaica, and that prevents the victims to claim justice and to be protected by the police. According to many testimonies I had the opportunity to collect the last two years (and not one and two weeks because I do live in Kingston), police and government are not cooperative. And because the homosexuals are scared, they rarely press charges.

    Concerning the material evidence about the three homosexuals killed, what material evidences can I give when the victims say they do not trust the police and hospitals ? I still can suggest you contact the JAS and they will link you up with the shelter.
    - I did not videotape the burning body of Jamie, because it happened in the country and I live in Kingston.
    - I can tell you that Dwayne, 22, died from a cerebral commotion on Hope Road in Kingston, not far from the King's House in the afternoon, after a group of men attacked him.
    - I don't have the material proof that Ashann was killed because he was gay, but there is no doubt about it. I got there shortly after they discovered the body. The blood was still running and the only reason people and the three policemen were shocked was because the man was a "batty boy".

    Still, homosexuals are not systematically killed, but the threat is perpetual. Writing that "the article might give the impression that jamaicans are running around looking for homosexuals to mutilate and kill" is unfair and unjustified.

    As a professionnal journalist, I do not publish mini-van gossips. And no, I will certainly not inform the readers about "the SUSPECTED homosexuals working in the arts, academia, business and politics". Suspected??? Like the suspected witches burnt in middle age? Or the suspected terrorist locked up in Guatanamo? Let's be honnest and serious.

    Mr Clayton, thank you for your paternal and kind advise, but I already did some "research on the topic" the last two years and I did not only "talk to a wide cross section of people like some local experts on the matter", but to all of them, two of whom are Portia Simpson Miller and Bruce Golding. I am french, I do not give lessons and I don't know best, but I don't publish nauseous smashing-shocking news to increase the readorship. And neither does Reggaefrance.

    "Se taire c'est parfois cautionner la violence et le non-droit, je ne serai pas complice du silence."

    Ratiba Hamzaoui ·

  11. Another article/document where the writer pretends to know or understand the culture and or people of Jamaica while only muddying the water with innuendo and falsehoods.

    Yes there are homophobes in Jamaica just like there are in USA, the UK, France and everywhere else I've ever been to and just like those first world countries it is illegal to physically attack a person because of their sexual orientation; in short, you will be arrested and put in prison if you do any such thing in Jamaica. I stood in line behind a transvestite recently in a kingston bank and while some people laughed quietly, he/she was not attacked and killed.

    The writer skillfully used the words "suicidaire", "enfer", "persécutée" etc to give the impression that jamaicans are running around looking for homosexuals to mutilate and kill. While we certainly have problems this is as far from the truth as one can be regarding this situation and I challenge the writer to furnish evidence of any such killing(s) in Jamaica. You pointed out that Macy's friend was found stabbed to death but you 'forgot' to tell us who killed this person and why, in fact none of your descriptions of violence indicate who the perpetrator(s) is/are or how any of these things happened.

    You also forgot to inform your readers that many well known Jamaicans in the arts, academia, business and politics are either known or suspected to be homosexual with no detriment to their lives and or careers. This situation is a bigger and more complex social issue than your narrow article tries to paint.

    The French like to give lessons because of course they know best...even when they don't know; liking reggae and visiting Jamaica for a week of two does NOT make you an expert! It might actually be a good idea to talk to a wide cross section of people like some local experts on the matter if and when you choose to actually do some research on the topic.

    Sam Clayton ·

  12. Faut remettre ça dans son contexte aussi ! A part dire qu'il y a énormément de lieux de culte en Jamaïque on oublie un peu vite que les 300 qui "transgressent" les interdits sociétaux sont extrêmement minoritaires et jeunes... 0,00001 % alors que la bisexualité y est bien plus répandue qu'on ne le croit !
    A l'époque des interdictions de Sizzla en France c'etait l’œuvre d'une minorité encore qui avait décidé de gêner une majorité du public français alors que l'artiste ne reflétait que la société dont il est issu...
    On parle d'homosexualite mais pas du libertinage sociétale qui fait que la majorité des foyers sont tenus par les femmes pendant que les hommes "papillonnent" créant des foyers monoparentaux dans un pays du tiers monde, où beaucoup de jeunes se retrouvent désmunis amenant violence, non respect des femmes, crimes et obscurantisme... mais comme toujours il es plus facile de parler de l'homosexualité, alors que ce pays a de bien plus graves problèmes à traiter dans l'immédiat...
    PS "j'adore" la comparaison avec l'Iran et l'Arabie Saoudite... oubliant que plein de pays n'ont aucune stat sur le sujet car être homo est passible de lynchage public dans certains pays d'Afrique...

    Bref un article partial ? certainement...

    Zuv · · rating: 2 out of 5

  13. A ceux qui sont pour une extermination(disons les choses comme elles sont);sachez que vos idées ne valent pas plus que celles d'un petit homme à moustache ou que d'un L Pen. Vous n'êtes que ce que vous critiquez à longueur à longueur de journée (Pathétique).
    Enfin, que Dieu nous protège de toutes les religions (=interprétation)...
    Article très intéressant et pensez à écouter les paroles(le reggae et le dancehall ne sont pas que ganja et oiseaux qui chantent dans les arbres)...

    clo33 ·

  14. bravo la jamaique !!!

    marts · · rating: 3 out of 5

  15. a choisir je prefere vivre en france qu en jamaique ...
    sinon ils ont compris quoi les jamaicains ? ils font du bon son, ok, mais c est pas un modele d'ouverture d esprit ni de tolerance...

    yardildo · · rating: 1 out of 5

  16. VIVE LA JAMAIQUE!!! EUX AU MOINS AU COMPRIS!!!

    yardie · · rating: 5 out of 5

  17. vive les homosexuels du dancehall!!

    free up · · rating: 1 out of 5

  18. L'intolérance envers les intolérants est une chose que je ne peux pas tolérer!!!

    tolèreman ·

  19. Digitalda,

    Je viens de retrouver l'article sur Google, datant du 18 avril 2006.

    L'article n'est qu'un résumé de ce qui est écrit ailleurs. Cet article est une enquête sur place.

    A part dire que la Jamaique est l'un des pays les plus homophobes, ce qui est su par tous, il n'y aucune information, aucun témoignage en commun.

    Tu m'as accusée-insultée à tort, tu sais ce qu'il te reste à faire.

    Ratiba ·

  20. Digitalda,
    Avant de porter des accusations aussi graves, il vaut mieux réfléchir. Cet article est le fruit d'un travail de plusieurs mois.
    Peux-tu me donner la date de parution de l'article sur l'homophobie en Jamaïque dans le Courrier International, journal que je n'ai JAMAIS lu de ma vie.

    Il n'y a pas pire accusation qui puisse etre porté à un journaliste.

    Ratiba ·

  21. Ratiba.... merci courrier international pour certaines parties... Tu as oublié de le préciser (...)

    Digitalda ·

  22. etre gay ces un sacrilege,comme l esclavage etait unn sacrilege,ces comme dire que la terre et nous sommes le fruit du hasard,dieu est l architetecte parfait et tout ce quil fait est parfait l etre humain s auto detruit en deruisant la planete..tenez vous pret dieu et son royaume eternelle arrive tout se dessine deja....

    alborosie · · rating: 5 out of 5

  23. Oui bien sur, tu as certainement raison. Mais j'ai du mal à comprendre un tel extrémisme. De toute façon, ce problème n'est même pas résolu en France... Pas à un tel extrémisme bien sur, mais il y a selon moi toujours une grande intolérance envers les homosexuels.

    Mouip ·

  24. @Mouip, le problème c'est que tu as des valeurs de bobo parisien et qu'ils ont des valeurs de bobos dread. On dirait du Harlem Desir époque SOS racisme! Je crains qu'ils ne préfèrent Marcus Garvey ;)

    Nardus ·

  25. Super sujet chaud bouillant dans le mouvement reggae et très bien abordé par la rédaction reggaefrance.com. Pas facile de traiter un sujet développant les polémiques. félicitations pour ce travail. Lemilk/reggae-Est.fr

    Lemilk · · rating: 5 out of 5

  26. Que se soit dans les gènes ou pas, on s'en branle... Leur manière d'avoir des relations sexuelles aussi d'ailleurs... Ce qui compte c'est que chacun puisse vivre sa vie comme il le souhaite. Je ne vois pas en quoi c'est dérangeant qu'il y ai des homosexuels. Le mélange des cultures, des sexes, des attirances, c'est ca qui fait notre force. Laissons les vivre en paix. C'est juste une question d'ouverture d'esprit.

    Mouip ·

  27. À Greg et Wizz, j'insiste sur le fait qu'il n'y a pas eu assimilation entre homosexuels et transsexuels. Il s'agit bien d'un article qui concerne l'homophobie dont sont victimes les homosexuels (lesbiennes et transsexuels homo inclus).

    Ratiba ·

  28. @ Nardus : t'inquiètes y a de la marge!

    °_° ·

  29. Il faudrait toujours distinguer l'homosexuel de l'acte homosexuel.

    Qu'on le veuille ou non, la sodomie est contre-nature pour 99% des religions / spiritualités / philosophie... On ne peut proclamer avoir raison seul contre tous en enfonçant des portes ouvertes.

    Quoiqu'il en soit, la violence contre les homos est dégueulasse comme toute violence gratuite.

    Ca ne veut pas dire qu'il faut des gaypride et des types déguisés en bonnes soeurs dans les rues de Kingston. On n'est pas obligé de passer d'un extrême à l'autre, seen?

    Nardus ·

  30. entièrement d'accord avec congo! si tu respectes les livres saints(bible, coran, tora...) que j'ai lu, à aucuns moments, il est dit : tuer un tel ou un tel et vous irez au paradis!!! dans tous ces livres, tuer un homme est la pire chose possible

    lutan ·

  31. je le sais o_o que cela fait parti des dix commandements à respecter... ne t'inquiètes pas..lol c'est juste pour dire que certains religieux en jamaique et ailleurs se servent de livres saints pour tuer et vont te dire après : mais notre dieu cautionne!!! c'est ça que je trouve anormal

    congo ·

  32. @Congo, si tu suis la Bible à la lettre tu ne tue pas. C'est même dans le Bible top ten des trucs à pas faire.

    o_o ·

  33. GREG !!! l'homosexualité c'est pas dans les gènes, la délinquance non plus tout ca c'est culturel, ca vous parait naturel parce que vous vivez a Sodome et Gomorrhe....la ou l'on ne respecte plus la famille, l'enfance ni la Vie et la ou le sexe prime car il fait vendre......OBSERVEZ

    David · · rating: 1 out of 5

  34. très bon article! +1 pour Greg, d'ailleurs l'article ne parle pas trop des lesbiennes non ?

    lab · · rating: 5 out of 5

  35. big up a tous les homosexuels du reggae et d ailleurs

    lomo erectus ·

  36. je ne cautionne la mort d'aucunes personnes, c'est juste un constat. la société jamaicaine ne changera pas du jour au lendemain sa vision des choses. Il a fallu plusieurs siècles en france alors...

    congo ·

  37. Le problème de beaucoup de personnes, c'est qu'elles voient les choses de chez elles! je m'explique : Il faut se mettre dans le contexte du pays, de la religion... Moi qui suis français, je ne vis pas dans le ghetto de trench town en respectant la bible à la lettre, j'ai reçu une autre éducation et même si j'écoute toute la journée du son jamaicain, je sais très bien faire la part des choses même si je ne cautionne pas l'homosexualité! je ne vais pas tirer sur deux hommes main dans la main qui passeraient devant moi dans la rue... Après, imagines que tu vives dans le ghetto jamaicain en écoutant du danchall homophobe toute la journée avec pour seul éducation ce genre de sons et des personnes qui cautionnent cela(religieux, rastas...), tu n'aurais pas le même mode de pensée? mettons nous à la plce des autres au lieu de voir la situation de chez nous...

    congo · · rating: 5 out of 5

  38. Super article...! Big up!

    Lordko ·

  39. @Louise: Qu a dit que le role des journalistes serait "d'aller forcer les gens à faire leur coming out pour avoir des statistiques conformes à ce que vous considérez comme des normes internationales ??????" à part vous?
    Ce qui dit Greg est logique. Sur un population d'environ 3 millions d'habitants, il est impossible qu'il n'y ait que 300 homosexuels. et c'est vrai qu'il est dommage d'assimiler homo à trans même si leur condition en jamaique ne doit pas pas etre très différente pour certain(e)s.
    @Ratiba: "les statistiques mondiales sont trop approximatives pour etre appliquées à une ile". A une ile de 3 millions de personnes ? laissez-moi en douter. même au conditionnel, c'est juste énorme de tabler sur 300. Mis à part ça, article très intéressant, merci.

    Wizz · · rating: 4 out of 5

  40. greetings again

    je cherche votre contact ratiba hamzaoui mais pas possible ce que je peux comprendre
    Travaillant aussi dans un média, pourrions nous écxhanger plus en avant de ce sujet ?
    mon contact
    papayatik@gmail.com
    merci d'avance
    je suis rédacteur en chef pour info.

    papayatik · · rating: 5 out of 5

  41. greetings ratiba
    je trouve cet article parmi les meilleurs depuis longtime!
    entre les buju en prison ou autre vybz kartel s'évade , il est bon de lire un article un peu plus penché sur des faits de société comme vous l'avez fait.
    Je ne peux que vous féliciter pour cet article
    one love

    papayatik · · rating: 5 out of 5

  42. @Greg. Pensez-vous que le rôle des journalistes soient d'aller forcer les gens à faire leur coming out pour avoir des statistiques conformes à ce que vous considérez comme des normes internationales ?????? Les associations ne comptabilisent que les personnes homosexuelles qui se déclarent comme telles! Cela paraît évident....Quant à la confusion que vous évoquez, je pense qu'il n'y a que vous pour la faire. L'article est claire sur ce point. Je remercie cette journaliste d'avoir eu le courage de rapporter la parole de ces personnes, de leur avoir donné de la voix! Voilà quelque chose d'utile...Et vous Greg, que faites-vous ?

    Louise · · rating: 5 out of 5

  43. Il se peut qu'il y ait bien plus d'homosexuels en Jamaique. Toutefois, les statistiques mondiales sont trop approximatives pour etre appliquées à une ile.
    J'ai donc préféré m'en remettre à des chiffres vérifiés par les associations sur place.
    Il ne s'agit pas d'une confusion des genres, mais d'un choix dans les sources.

    Ratiba ·

  44. Seulement 300 homosexuels en Jamaïque ? Vous plaisantez ?

    La Jamaïque compte environ 3 millions d'habitants. Dans la mesure où l'on ne choisit pas son orientation sexuelle, et que rien ne prouve que la proportion de personnes homosexuelles est différente de celle d'autres régions du monde, il y a sans doute entre 5 et 10 % de lesbiennes et de gays en Jamaïque, c'est-à-dire entre 150 000 et 300 000 personnes. L'homosexualité de la plupart de ces personnes n'est pas marquée sur leur front. Compte tenu du climat particulièrement meurtrier qui sévit sur cette île, la majorité de ces femmes et de ces hommes ne révèlent pas publiquement leur orientation sexuelle, se marient et vivent sans doute clandestinement une double vie.

    Les 300 personnes que vous évoquez sont sans doute des personnes transgenres (ou transsexuelles), particulièrement exposées parce que visibles.

    Je trouve dommage que dès la première phrase, vous fassiez une confusion entre l'orientation sexuelle et l'identité de genre, qui sont deux choses distinctes. Une personne transgenre (c'est-à-dire s'identifiant à un genre qui ne correspond pas à son sexe biologique) peut être hétérosexuelle.

    Greg · · rating: 3 out of 5